He says Pettitte has more credibility than either Clemens or McNamee.
Cummings is asking why McNamee would have lied to Pettitte about steroids??

Clemens responds ...by saying,"If Andy Pettitte thought I was using HGH ....he would have come to me and asked me about it ...and he didn't" But his comment was cut off by Cummings .....Cummings says,"Why would McNamee lie about you ..and not lie about the other two.??" (Pettitte & Knoblauch).

Clemens is responding ....saying,"Pettitte asked him what he was going to say to reporters ..what would you say if they asked you about using steroids."

Cummings say it's hard to believe him. He says,"You're one of my heroes ...but it's hard to believe you."

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