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Another Extension...

5:59 PM Fri, Sep 28, 2007 |
Travis Kircher

Today was the deadline for David Camm's attorneys to file their appelate brief -- essentially the "bible" that would contain all of the arguments they would bring before the Indiana Supreme Court to sway the justices to overturn or reverse the guilty verdict in Camm's second trial.

But that time has passed and no brief has been forthcoming.

The court has granted Camm's attorneys another extension. The brief is now due Oct. 12.

Keep checking this blog. We'll bring you the full text of that brief when it becomes available.



19 Comments

Marie-Josee said:

common sense,I found the manuscript, thank you.I don't have the time to read it right now but I will probably this week-end. How ever I did look at the clock which is kind of weird because it shows time in which the murder probably ended. The D. and three stars means David,Kim and the kids, also there almost like an arrow from Boney's name to the D and the stars(????),well I am way over my head with homework right now but I really want to read the all manuscript, I am sure that I will understand a lot more than.From the little I read, it seems like Boney is blaming everybody but himself. He is seeing himself as a good guy,what a joke!!! He is very manipulative and have fun with it,he thinks he can fool everyone and he almost did.

common sense said:

marie-josee

Google Charles Boney manuscript. It is 94 pages. Look at the page for Chapter "Doing Time" Look at the clock he drew and the time. Look at the 3 stars. Interesting?

Marie-Josee said:

common sense,I have not read the manuscript you are talking about but I am interested in reading it. Can you tell me where to find it?Thanks

common sense said:

marie-josee,

Have you read the manuscript written by Charles Boney. He tells his acts of revenge against people he preceives has wronged him. He is evil and twisted.
I feel that it's possible that he crossed paths somewhere with either David or Kim. It could have been as simple as taking his parking space. With his hatred it very well could have been this simple. He had not been out of prison very long and he very well knew he had screwed up any so called potential for a successful life. He plotted his revenge. I am sure he was not too surprised when his sweatshirt was found with his DNA on it. He was probably surprised that it took so long.
I have seen what a botched investigation can do to a person and the lengths that a prosecution team can do to keep it covered up. This rush to judgement should not have happened, all the evidence should have been investigated throughly but like Stan Faith said, "Someone dropped the ball".

Marie-Josee said:

Common Sense, I have been watching murder mystery shows for ever.This is the first time that I have seen something that ridiculous.It is hard to believe and it is very sad that here in America the justice system is lacking that much proficiency.I am always surprise to see the comments of the people who thinks David is guilty.The way he acted after the murder; like people understand what it is to lose their entire family.The fact that he didn't call 911; being a cop he had to know that 911 is not that affective because of the people who are using the line in non-emergency.I mean none of the people who thinks Dave did that are looking at all the lies Faith(he even threated one of the expert in her testimony,I don'tremember her name) and Boney fabricated.It is practically impossible for him to have done this.

common sense said:

Marie-Josee,
Charles Boney is evil and has lived in prison most of his adult life. Stan Faith is good friends with his mother Barbara Boney. He is a violent full of hate psychopath. He has been in trouble since grade school. He is a con with a silver tongue. He got by with this murder for 5 years. His car was seen driving on David Camm's road about 3 in the afternoon on the day of the murders. Any reasonable thinking person would know there is something sinister going on in his mind that day. It did not involve David Camm.

lea said:

The first trial is the core of this issue. The first prosecuter did not examine all the evidence, he just knew he got the killer. He made up theories as he went along and when his theory was proved to be false he just made up another theory. He called Ron Englert who was paid handsomely to collaberate his theory. The first trial was assumed David Camm was the only one that could be the murderer. He was tried and convicted because The prosecuter had thrown out all the vilest accusations that could be said against David Camm. People made up their minds on this. I bought into this also. When Boney was found I followed very closely. I instinctly knew there was more to this than the prosecuter had theorized. It took awhile for me to think objectively. After listening to Boney and the careless way the 2nd prosecuter just tried to flip his involvement off as minimual my common sense kicked in. The state would rather let a innocent man hang that admit they were wrong and careless. A lot of people have bought into this. Human nature can be a dangerous thing. David Camm is guilty of philandering (lots of people are) and that is why he is in prison. Not one piece of evidence says he is guilty of murdering his family.

Marie-Josee said:

I just read part of the brief and something really caught my attention Boney told the investigator Dunn "if something of his was present at the crime scene such as his finger prints that would mean he was present and if he was present at the crime scene the fact that he was the individual who committed the crime would be "pretty obvious"."This is in the brief and they even have a DVD of it(I remember seying it on 48 hours).That's sound like a confession to me.

Marie-Josee said:

LLM,because of the court system my life was ruined as a child(I was lucky,I was strong enough to pull through).Unfortunately,judges and juries make unforgivable mistakes.Just look at the Ron Williamson's case.I am not saying that David is not guilty for sure, even though I think he is not.I believe that the case was manipulated and that is a fact.Instead of focussing only on David from the beginning the investigators should had been looking at every possible scenario. i think that if they had done their job right,the chance of finding the thruth would have been greater.They would have had chance to find the murder weapon which should have been their primary focus.I too don't want to debate that with you,we have two different opinions.But I think that it is a case to be debated because a men who saw his familly massacred is spending life in jail and there is not enough evidences for his conviction.

LLM said:

Marie-Josee, I did not want to give you the impression that I was debating anyone concerning the trial or I might add trials. People on these blogs seem to be forgetting that the 1st. trial has nothing to do with the facts as they stand today. The Supreme Court did indeed overturn the verdict. So its a waste of anyones time and effort even to address issues that were raised in the 1st. trial. That being said, I will state that after attending all three trials, myself and the majority of the people in the court room came to the same conclusion that the members of the jury did. If my memory serves me right I believe you stated on one of your posting that you were from Canada, if that being the case, you must be relying on someone else to gather information. As I stated before you would had to have heard all testimony in order to even try to make an informed decision of guilt or innocence. You stated that you read everything on this blog, but what does that tell you?
If you are talking about the many posting on this subject by many people, all you are reading are opinions. If I answered your many questions, you would have my opinion as well. As the old saying goes: "If you laid all man's opinions end to end,there would be no end. That is exactly why we have Courts,Judges,Trials and Juries. Enough said!

Marie-Josee said:

One more thing, that don't make sense that Boney got charge with conspiracy when they couldn't bring that charge against David because of no evidence.Conspiracy means that it takes TWO people.Travis Kircher does a excellent job at reporting the news and it is with the news that I built my opinion, I read the book long after I have made my opinion.

Marie-Josee said:

LLM,you seem to know a lot, can you answer some of my questions? Why the jury believed that Boney did not pulled the trigger?Boney's shirt was found at the crime scene(By the way I read everything on this blog).Boney is known to put two shirts on, when he goes to do is crimes.Why Boney put the shoes on the Bronco?Why his palm was found on the same side of the Bronco that Kim was found ashaulted?Does it make any sense that during the struggle he fell and try to hold himself up?If Boney had notthing to hide, wouldn't he have come up with a better story?I mean it doesn't take a scientist to see that his story is full of lies. Why would David need two guns?Why didn't they find the guns? I think that Boney had plenty of time to get rid of them.Boney told one of his victims who's dad was a cop that he hated cops, before he got arrested holding that same victim at gun point(neighbor got suspicious and called the police),why in this case would he called David his buddy?Didn't they say anything about that at the trial? At least one of the jury said that it would have change his verdict if he had known some of that.Is it not weird that the evidences against Boney came out 4 years later? Especialy when Faith is a friend of Boney's familly.By the way ,material deposition is not a recognize science.In most of the cases where innocent people get put behind the bars for crimes they didn't commit, the prosecution use these kind of evidences.The evidences are notthing but they make the jury believes that they are scientific(pubic hairs is an other one).I don't know if you have answers for all my question but I will be glad to hear them.

LLM said:

Marie-Josee, maybe you should just go to Travis Kirchers daily trial coverage that is posted on this blog and you will find an answer to most of your questions. He did an excellent job of reporting the facts that were presented in court. Also you might check WAVE 3 blog. They too had a very telling commentary on the trial. As for Charles Boney, it might interest you to know that he was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder not the actual murders. In fact the jury stated after the trial that they did not believe he pulled the trigger, but by being at the scene when the murders were committed that made him guilty to the charges of conspiracy to commit murder. Also reading books is not going to help you to come to any conclusions, Save your money read the daily posting of Mr. Kircher and save your money.

Marie-Josee said:

I am sorry,I ment to say, if David Camm had been proven guilty without a reasonable doubt we wouldn't be debating it between so many people on this site

Marie-Josee said:

There is one think that could have been pointed towards David and its the blood on the shirt.How many other evidence how showing that he didn't do this crime? A mountain of evidencesss.Things happen in life sometimes that we just can't explain. People get accuse because of unexplanable things like that and get release because it's proven later that they didn't commit the crime. Who is telling you that David didn't come on direct contact with Jill's hair straight on? The expert didn't prove that it was impossible ,he said it was unlikely ,well things happen.What about the other evidences,there is none.David didn't know Boney,Boney can't come up with a story that make sense,David has a strong alibi and to top it off Kim was asaulted by a maniac and David did't have one scratch.Whitney was interogated by the State, her dad is not a child molester. Kim and david's mariage was doing better than in the past when he was a trooper.Even the Renn's didn't believe he did that at first but they got brain wash from the procecution.If you come up with an explanation for the evidences that pointed to boney I would like to ear it because there is no consperacy remember.The law says to prove him guilty and they haven't done so, so far if they had we would be on this side debating it.

LLM said:

This is in response to Marie-Josee research. You should have been at the trial and you would know what the blood
expert was able to REPRODUCE. The DEFENSE tried to contend that the blood on Davids shirt was deposited by Jill's hair. The PROSECUTION point blank asked, in cross examination "In order for the blood stains to be deposited in such a manner, the shirt would have to come in contact with the hair, straight on". I believe the question was stated to receive a yes or no answer. Needless to say, the defense had no relative answer to that question. You can research all you want but the only way you will find the answers is by being present when the facts are presented.


athnidice said:

I know Sam Lockhart's son, Patrick, was arrested in Floyd County for voyeurism a few months back. I went to one hearing but have not heard anymore about Patrick. Sam, what is your son's status?

Marie-Josee said:

I too can't wait that this will be done.I hope David Camm get a big compensation for all of is been through.How can people say that he is guilty???Can you see the huge injustice that have been done to that poor guy???Boney acted alone to his prior crimes (similar to this one),why would it be different now???People there is no connection between them two.Boney said he met Camm playing basketball but NO ONE EVER saw them together, no phone record NOTTHING...Please go back and READ on this case, it is ridiculous.Camm
got convicted only because of the blood on his shirt,he had told the story prior to that about reaching for his son even before he knew that blood would be found,the blood expert was able to REPRODUCE the SAME pattern with Jill's
hairs .I researched this case , each time I had a doubt I found the answer for it ,so before you accuse the guy make your research.

Racheal said:

I wish this would hurry up and be done. They are both where they should be.


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