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April 3, 2008

Update: Tense moments at Capitol immigration protest

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Journal photo / Connie Grosch
Protesters crowd into the office of the governor's police officer at the State House today.


PROVIDENCE -- In a tense few moments at the State House today, a crowd protesting Governor Carcieri's executive order on illegal immigration flooded the office of his policy director, chanting loudly in Spanish, before being ordered to leave the building by yelling Capitol Police.

The police and some of the protesters tussled. But the confrontation did not escalate into outright violence, and no one was arrested.

About 75 protesters gathered initially in the State House rotunda at 4 p.m. to denounce the order, then quickly went down a hall to the office of policy director Timothy Costa.

About 50 entered the office, chanting "El pueblo unido no mas sera vencido!" -- a people united won't be defeated.

Capitol police arrived, and an officer yelled, "This is a private office" and "You need to leave right now."

In the crowd was Providence City Councilman Miguel Luna, who replied, "This is an office of the governor."

The protesters kept chanting, as yelling went on. They left after about 5 minutes.

The police warned them repeatedly not to resist. About a half-dozen police officers forced the protesters to leave the building.

As the crowd left the building, participants chanted in English, "We will be back."

Audio: Listen to a clip of the crowd chanting and police response (MP3, 2:04 mins.)

Extra: Read Carcieri's six-point executive order on steps to control illegal immigrants.

-- projo.com staff writer Michael McKinney and Steve Peoples, Journal State House bureau

Protesters held signs with messages such as: "No human is illegal."

Outside the State House, Luna said, "When you have the top clergy in the state of Rhode Island and they can't get through to him [Governor Carcieri], this is the option left."

Luna, referring to Carcieri, said, "It's all his fault -- it's his making."

The order, announced by the governor at a news conference last week, has ignited controversy.

Yesterday, Rhode Island religious leaders called on Carcieri to reconsider his executive order on illegal immigration, saying it threatened to create widespread vitriol against immigrant communities.

More than 40 clergy members from a range of religious denominations gathered outside the Cathedral of SS. Peter and Paul and applauded as Rabbi Alan Flam, president of Rhode Island’s Board of Rabbis, denounced the governor’s order as “a top-down, poorly conceived” policy that promised “discrimination against people of color and immigrants in Rhode Island.”

This afternooon, Carcieri's office announced he is due to go on the Lou Dobbs' program on CNN tonight to talk about his order. The live segment is slated to air at about 7:40 p.m.

Posted by Andrea Panciera  at 7:02 PM | Permalink

Comments

I don't always agree with the Governor, but this time he is 100% correct. Follow the scenario below:
I came home and found a stranger in my house; he broke in and came in illegally. He said I had to house him, feed him, educate him, care for his medical needs and allow him to fly his countries flag in front of my house. The next day his wife and three kids were there and repeated the same request. That is exactly what illegal aliens are doing; they are breaking into our country and demanding all the services they want. This has to stop! I have enough problems taking care of my own family, paying my own mortgage, food, clothing and shelter requirements without supporting everyone who is breaking into our country.

Governor Carcieri please don't back down on this one; stay the course, and throw the bums out. If they want to come in legally and follow our laws and become citizens I will welcome them with open arms. If they come in illegally, well the very word says it all: They are illegal!

Gerry L. | April 3, 2008 6:28 PM link

It sounds like we had a good chance to start deporting these law breakers! They should have all been arrested!!!

Ann | April 3, 2008 6:34 PM link

i said it all alone dont let the latinos get this country ,yes he is the gobernor that maybe his office but he is the gobernor of citizen of the state ,no of people with no papers who may not even like the american culture. one example they dont even want to speak english.

jorge vega | April 3, 2008 6:59 PM link

this just proves the point. How dare they chant in Spanish. The is the United States!

nancy | April 3, 2008 7:27 PM link

Demonstrations like this show exactly why we must act NOW, before such groups of illegal aliens become even stronger and more demonstrative. They must be crushed, without mercy.

Summer Romance | April 3, 2008 8:08 PM link

I guess that the American taxpayer could not attend this rally today, as they are to busy WORKING and making a living to support all these dregs of society. I hope that all the people of RI will support the ouster of ALL illegal immigrants. And, by the way, does not it go up you SIDEWAYS to hear them yelling in Spanish!! Good grief, they cannot even protest in English. We are soooo doomed.

E. Butterfield | April 3, 2008 8:12 PM link

After reading the Executive order it is of my opinion that we are not doing enough. I am not quite sure what it is that people are upset about. The only effective issueance in the order in one that pertains to the verification of all persons working as contractors for the state. In this particular instance I guess I dont understand the reaction. What is it about being illegal that is not understood? It seems to me that the Governor is ordering the police to do their jobs. It really is idiocy that people are upset about the ENFORCEMENT OF THE LAW. And personally I think that all protesters that are not of proper immigration status should be jailed and deported. The RIGHT to protest is protected under the first ammendment. And it is a right that I pay taxes to protect.

Sean | April 3, 2008 8:31 PM link

Quote from Miguel Luna referring to Gov.Carcieri "It's all his fault--it's his making" You, Mr. Luna, are really going to have to explain how illegal aliens breaking the laws of this country are the fault of Gov. Carcieri. In this country it's called accountability, or taking responsibility for ones actions. It seems this just doesn't apply for the "illegal" lawbreakers.

Joan | April 3, 2008 8:32 PM link

These scene makes me intensely dislike all immigrants - illegal and legal. After Sept 11th my dad said President Bush should have stopped all immigrants from entering our country until we got a handle on who was here. Obviously that didn't happen and now look at the mess we are in. The wealthy people don't care because of cheap labor they get. If their kids had to go to school with this law breakers they might feel differently!!!

Ann | April 3, 2008 8:38 PM link

See the protestors can learn English (I'm sure many already do, but that did not fit their political motive in the Capitol) as demonstrated in their promise to return! I am fully in favor to have language skill programs to help this group fit into the population, but the real issue is economics. We can no longer afford to take care of these "guests" while our own citizens suffer. If they want to suffer equally, become a bonafide citizen and join our ranks.

Dan | April 3, 2008 8:50 PM link

The whole immigration debate boils down to this: If you woke up tomorrow to find 10 strangers living in your house, would you feel violated and tell them to leave, or would you say "Even though I worked hard to get to this point, you not only deserve the same chance, but you deserve to cut the line, take resources from our children, and bring all your friends with you." We live in a capitalist country, not a communist one. The hard work and sacrifices of all legal citizens should not be diluted by those who come here illegally.

bob | April 3, 2008 9:51 PM link

The children of illegal immigrants are part of the problem with out schools. When English isn't your first language it then requires more infrastructure to deal with your lingual deficit.

I rarely agree with Carcieri but in this case I support him all the way.

Tony P | April 4, 2008 12:48 AM link

The fact that they chanted their "demands" in spanish is enough for me. If they want to be part of this country, learn the language! The Germans, Dutch, Italians, etc. managed to do that and assimilate. Why do they think they're so special?

Citi | April 4, 2008 1:01 AM link

The whole debate over "illegal" immigration is silly. Being born on one side of an imaginary line versus another shouldn't make someone less human or less deserving of human rights. It's morally and ethically reprehensible to call a human being "illegal". It's impossible to be an "illegal", we're all just people.

Mike | April 4, 2008 1:07 AM link

Well said Jerry L. I agree 100%. Now is when the "Silent Majority" must stand up and be counted. The illegals are in the minority but their cohorts are very vocal and our fine upstanding council members, senators and representatives will pander to them for their votes. I am so sick of this B.S. Round them all up and send them packing back to their own country.

Henry | April 4, 2008 1:30 AM link


Where is Jerry Brown on this issue? seperation
of church and state? I'm not hearing anything
from him.These people are breaking the law by
being here.They should all be arrested including
the counclman Even if they are not illegal they
are aiding and abeting these people.If these
churches persist in this they should be made
to pay taxes on all their properties and money.
Take away their tax exempt status. They can
help support these lawbreakers.


Gene | April 4, 2008 5:01 AM link

matthew 25:31-46 tells us where carcieri will end up for his persecution of the "least" in his eyes.
especially grievous is the hateful attitude of intolerance that is apparent from the readers that are posting here.
you are wrong carcieri and are a blind leader of the blind....

proverbs 14:12 "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end
thereof are the ways of death."

a disciple | April 4, 2008 5:42 AM link

This time,the governor got it right.Us taxpayers and AMERICAN CITIZENS have had enough of these people coming in,taking away our jobs,using our resources,not paying taxes,etc.You get my drift? It's about time that R.I. and every other state in this nation started following Arizona's example and cut these people off from any type of benefits what so ever.These people have crossed our border illegally,and in my book,that makes them criminals and they should be treated as such.

Jeffrey Osgood | April 4, 2008 6:12 AM link

Get all these leaches OUT of the country. If they come legally I embrace them with open arms, but they don't pay taxes, and the just waltz into the emergency room, welfare office, and get all these benefits for nothing. I am a middle class man, make a decent salary, yet I live paycheck to paycheck while some of these bums drive BMW's, it's a disgrace.

Bill | April 4, 2008 7:07 AM link

Too bad Capitol Police didn't arrest them. I bet if RIILE had been protesting, all of them would be in prison this morning.

Greg | April 4, 2008 7:42 AM link

Please do not back down on this, Governor. The fact that they were chanting in Spanish makes it obvious that they have no desire or intention to learn English and assimilate - they will continue to demand (how dare they demand anything!) that everything be in Spanish until they overrun the state. Let's keep RHode Island American!!!

Jo | April 4, 2008 8:21 AM link

These people were trying to make a point and they had the audacity to chant in a foreign language, within our state house!? And they want to be taken seriously? Speak AMERICAN and maybe someone will listen, otherwise, just go away…

m | April 4, 2008 10:36 AM link

I am appalled by the level of intolerance and ignorance on display here. It emphasizes the urgent need to re-educate ourselves. Today, it’s the Latinos. In the past, other groups of people have been victims of such blatant xenophobia. In the future it will be somebody else’s turn. The immigrants are not the problem but they often become the scapegoats. As AMERICANS, we are facing many challenges these days and the solution does not lie in placing blame.

NM | April 4, 2008 3:10 PM link

They should have been arrested for creating a disturbance. Chanting in Spanish - that certainly gets the message across. Chief Esterman and Mayor Cicillini should both be ashamed of themselves. Refusing to carry out the Governor's Executive Order. How dare they condone criminal behavior.

lina | April 4, 2008 3:46 PM link

Sounds to me like a rally of this type would be a good oppourtunity to start enforcing the gov's executive order - those who cannot prove they're here legally can be delivered right on over to ICE. 75 people...the rest of us are all working.

The Chorus | April 4, 2008 5:32 PM link

I applaud the governor in this!! We need our borders secure. I do not think this order goes far enough. Anyone who is here in a way that did not come in a legal way is trespassing and should have their butts sent back to where they came from. They are illegal. I welcome legal immigrants to our country, but people who come here outside our laws are breaking the law by their very presence on our soil.

Scott | April 4, 2008 6:26 PM link

Why is it our responcibility to house, clothe, feed and care for non-citizens?? The truth is it's not. Our standard of living is getting worse, our children are learning at a slower pace due to language barriers and our health care industry is in the toilet!! Good, law abiding people have been waiting for years for the chance to legally come to this country. Why should we reward those that break our laws and have the audacity to DEMAND better treatment by calling anything they want a human right? It didn't seem to work well where they came from!! Cut off the FREE RIDE, put those that hire them in jail and they will move on!! Otherwise in 15 years we'll all have NOTHING.

Tim | April 4, 2008 6:52 PM link

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