It's Not OK
I don't care if you root for the Ducks or not a bad call is a bad call is a bad call.
There were a couple big ones at the end of the Oregon / Oklahoma game Saturday.
The one that everyone is talking about dumfounds me. How can 7 officials, 2 or 3 officials in the replay booth, and then the entire crew of ABC Sports completely whiff ?
All they were concerned with was who touched the ball and when ?
I know that's a major part of the equation, but didn't anyone have the smarts to also ask who receovered the ball ?
Let's say Oklahoma touched the ball before the ball traveled 10 yards ?
Which I don't think happened.
Who ended up with the ball ?
It wasn't the Ducks and it wasn't close.
Now for some Oklahoma humor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlXgbKPUFt8
Ron
RPivo@kgw.com



Comments
Flat out retarded. If any Oregon fan says they won the game "fair". There is something seriously messed up in there mind. And dont tell me im whining, i have the right to.
This is 2006, not the 1950's. Today we have instant-replay, what is instant replay if your not going to use it correctly.
This isnt a disgrace to the pac-10 reff's its a disgrace to ALL reffs of the country. Flat out stupid. What was the reff's thinking. We could tell they were going to let oregon win, but why make it so obvious. Some ref's sometimes call things on Oregon. I hope this goes on for weeks, so make sure oregon fans when you say your won, make sure you put those astricks beside that.
Even if you got pass the 10 yards, you didnt have the ball. Also dont forget we beat you in the Holiday Bowl, so that really means, we brought home the Gold, you brought home a W. HAHA, have fun while it lasts!
Posted by: Cody | September 19, 2006 7:48 AM
Ron I agree with you. The question was never ask who had the ball.
The President of the Pac-10 has always stipulated that he want a team to go undefeated so that they (Pac-10) can be represented in a BCS game. You might ask how can they accomplish this? Just watch the last part of the Oregon-Ok game and you will see.
There is no doubt in my mind that the game was fixed. The conduct of the officiating crew (both on the field and in the both was terrible.)The Pac-10 has even (in a sense) admitted the game was fixed by suspending the officials, albeit for only one game.
I have seen games all over the country and I can say with no remorse that the worst officials are in the Pac-10. The Oregon-Stanford also had some poor officiating. Were they suspended? The TV commentators also remarked to this fact, he was a former U of O player.
This game was fixed. The Pac-10 office by suspending the officiating crew admits it.
Posted by: Phillis | September 19, 2006 9:18 AM
PERHAPS IT IS ONLY ME BUT----
WITH EVERY SPORT---FROM LITTLE LEAGUE TO WORLD CUP SOCCER----OFFICIATING WILL BE QUESTIONED AT SOMETIME.
BAD CALLS ARE UNFORTUNATELY A FACT OF SPORTS. PERHAPS THE DUCKS DID BENEFIT FROM A BAD CALL....HISTORICALLY THEY HAVE BEEN HURT BY BAD CALLS AS WELL. I AM SURE THAT HISTORICALLY OKLAHOMA HAS BENEFITTED FROM A BAD CALL.....
AND THAT IS WHAT I QUESTION FROM THIS WHOLE AFFAIR----IF IT HAD BEEN OKLAHOMA THAT HAD BEEN THE BENEFICARY IN THIS GAME AND OREGON HAD BEEN THE "UNFORTUNATE PARTY" WOULD ANYONE BUT OREGONIANS STILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS TUESDAY MORNING----I THINK NOT!!!!
GAME OFFICIALS GOT REPRIMANDED BECAUSE OF THE FACT ONE OF THE "GRAND POO-BAH" TEAMS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL--OKLAHOMA--POSSIBLY LOST A GAME BECAUSE OF A BAD CALL.
CERTAINLY THE NCAA DOES NEED TO MONITOR THEIR GAME OFFICIALS. OFFICALS NEED TO BE DILIGENT IN THEIR JOBS; AND CERTAINLY THEY NEED TO BE MONITORED AND TAKEN TO TASK IF THEIR PERFORMANCE WARRENTS SUCH ACTION---BUT THAT SHOULD BE THE POLICY FOR EVERY OFFICAL, FOR EVERY GAME, OF EVERY LEVEL OF NCAA ATHLETICS---NOT JUST GAMES WHICH ARE HIGH PROFILE.
BUT AS I SAID BEFORE---MAYBE ITS ONLY ME.
Posted by: C SANDERS | September 19, 2006 9:34 AM
What no one seems to be talking about are the missed calls in the first half that went against the Ducks.
The play clock runs out and Oklahoma still gets to run the play that went for a first down when it should have been 4th down.
Then at the end of the first half there was a pass interference no call when the Ducks were driving down field.
I agree that the officials blew the call at the end of the game but they also blew many other calls earlier that went against the Ducks.
Those officials should be demoted to high school ball.
Posted by: Kevin | September 19, 2006 11:26 AM
Oregon would not have won without the bad onside field kick call; however, there were a number of other highly suspect calls earlier in the game that lead to the Oklahoma lead. The supossed fumble that turned the tide and led to a Oklahoma TD. The out of bounds run placing the ball at 4th and 2 inches not 2 yards may have forced the field goal. These alone represent as much as a 18 point potential swing.
Who knows what the actual difference would have been becuase bottom line, you have to make the plays when it counts. Both teams at time struggled, but in the end Oregon showed poise and Oklahoma did not. You have to ask yourself, if Oklahoma made the FG at the end, would Stoops be making such a scene right now.
There are three isues at hand. First, If the mistake happened 10 minutes ealier, would it be such a big story? Why aren't the other mistakes as important? There was poor refereeing across the board and if the Big 12 and Oklahoma deserve an apology so does Oregon. Seond, this instant reply is becoming a bore. There must have been 20 minutes on referee reviews alone. I think one coach requested reveiw is enough.
Posted by: Mike | September 19, 2006 12:21 PM
I agree that a bad call is a bad call. However without the benifit of television you would never know that it really was a bad call. It's kind of childish to get upset over this, after all it's only a football game. Key word GAME. People make mistakes, the officials made a mistake. Show me a game where the officials don't make a mistake, any game any sport, many of them game changing mistakes. Many of those mistakes have changed the outcome of the game. I've seen it you've seen it, so let's stop crying about this one and grow up a bit.
Posted by: john | September 19, 2006 12:54 PM
I agree with you completely. As for KGW's online poll, "Do you think the officiating changed the outcome of the game?", heck yes. If I remember correctly, there was just a little over a minute remaining in the game and I'm pretty sure the Ducks were out of timeouts. Do the math if 1) The refs get the "who touched it first" right and 2) OU gets the ball because they recovered it. They kneel down a couple of times and it's over, OU wins.
Don't get me wrong, it was a great game and UO gave OU a couple of freebies w/turnovers, but OU would have won the game. No need for the "other" missed call about the whether or not the ball was deflected. Moot point, game already over.
A bad call, is a bad call is a bad call, it's part of the game. UO fans should thank the Pac-10 crew it turned out in their favor and be humbled, though I don't expect that to happen anytime soon.
Posted by: Mark H | September 19, 2006 1:03 PM
My question is..why arent some of the calls before the onside kick being looked at? Oregon was robbed at least 3 times. Oregon should have been tied or had the lead and the onside kick shouldnt have even happened. The onside kick would simply have been the LAST of the important calls (had OU recovered the kick), not the only important call that was missed.
Lets examine more than just one play. Its 3rd and 10 for OU, on the OU 27 with 5:00 mins left in the third quarter. Kelly catches a pass down the left sideline for a TD. The play is reviewed and detemined Kelly steps out of bounds on the OU 48 yard line. Why does the ball get spotted on the Oregon 47 yard line? Now its 1rst and 10 on the Oregon 47 yard line? Bad spot plus what about the DELAY of game? The play should have been 3rd and 15 on the OU 22 yard line. Instead OU goes on to score a TD on that possession.
How does OU score? Its 2nd and 6 on the Oregon 33 yard line..Thompson throws a deep ball to Kelly, who PUSHES OFF on Oregon defender #6 Thurmond. Somehow that play is not or cant be reviewed? Are you kidding me? This is OFFENSIVE INTERFERENCE, back that ball up. It was knotted up at 13-13 before this play, as this was a critical play with only 3:50 left the third quarter. This play was a travesty that directly put 7 points on the board for OU.
Later in the game, Oregon has the ball on the OU 30 yard line. Its 4rth and 6 with 14:56 left in the fourth quarter. Oregon decides to go for it and Jaison Williams catches a pass for a TD. Where is the OU defense?
Then its 20-20 with 12:30 left in the fourth quarter. OU has the ball 3rd and 11 on the Oregon 27 yard line. Adrian Peterson runs out of bounds at the Oregon 18 yard line but the ball is spotted an inch short of the first down marker on the Oregon 16. It should be 4rth and a long 2, but now its 4rth and a inch. Are you kidding me? They of course go for it and score a TD on the next play. Would Stoops have lined up for a field goal if the ball was SPOTTED CORRECTLY? Probably, as that is what he resorted to twice later in the game. Would OU have made the field goal if the ball was spotted correctly?
OU intercepts Dixon for the first time of the game and gets the ball to 1rst and goal on the Oregon 5 yard line with 8 mins left in the game. OU cant score the TD and must resort to the field goal, which they make with 6:46 to go in the game. Why cant OU get the TD? Is the OU offense bad on this series or is the Oregon defense good on this series? It doesnt matter either way. Oklahoma chose to go conservative. Stoops offensive coaching mistake? Possibly. Defensive Coordinator, Nick Aliotti outcoaching OU? Possibly.
OU intercepts Dixon for the second time with 5:30 left in the game. OU chooses to run the ball to run down the clock? Mistake? Why does Adrian Peterson run out of bounds twice? Doesnt he know to stay in bounds to keep the clock rolling? OU gets the ball to the Oregon 7 where its first on goal. OU cant score a TD? Again is the OU offense bad or the Oregon defense good in this series? It doesnt matter. They must settle for a field goal again. A little too conservative? Thinking they had the game locked up?
Oregon gets the ball with 3 mins left down by 13 points. Why does OU keep letting Dixon scramble and getting first downs? Why does Jaison Williams keep catching the ball AND getting out of bounds. Doesnt OU defense know to not let him catch the ball? Doesnt OU defense know to not let Jaison Williams get out of bounds? Yes they know, but they cant STOP IT. Its an Oregon offense that as been putting points on the board for 15 years. Oregon scores a TD and brings the score to 27-33. Oregon has too many offensive weapons for OU.
Oregon goes for the onside kick. The call is botched even after a review, so its Oregon ball. Couple of plays later, OU complains about PI call, but it wasnt 3rd or 4rth down. Oregon had more chances and would have scored anyway. The OU defense could NOT stop the Oregon offense. Brian Paysinger catches a wide open pass for a TD. In fact Oregon scores too fast, so OU gets the ball back.
OU cant return a kickoff for a TD, but gets a nice return. Right the ship..return the kickoff for a TD. OU chooses to line up for a long field goal with 2 seconds left. Is that a good idea? Do you think Oregon might load up for the block? Why not make Oregon pay for the max block and fake it? Ok choose the field goal. OU special teams must keep the Oregon defensive line down and off the ball. OU cant do it. The energy of Autzen stadium powers the Oregon defensive linemen to the block and the victory.
Take a look at all the areas Oregon outplayed OU...1rst downs, rushing yards per carry, total passing yards, total yards, penalty yards (OU couldnt deal with the Autzen noise), return yards, etc.. Time of possession doesnt matter as Oregon can score fast and often. The only area Oregon was beat was turnovers. I think 26 first downs and 501 total yards makes up for that.
One last burning question. How does Adrian Peterson win State Farm player of the game when he only averaged 6.2 yards per carry, but Jonathan Stewart averaged 6.3 yards per carry, was on the winning team, and was only 80% healthy due to ankle problems?
Confused
Posted by: Dean Koenig | September 19, 2006 1:06 PM
It is great how no one can go back in that game and see Oregon took the shaft on at least two crucial, game changing, momentum turning plays and blame the whole outcome of the game on the last bad call.
The OU receiver without a doubt pushed off not once but twice on their second touchdown that put them up 20-13. Now, that no call was on an actual scoring play where Oregon had no chance to make up for the bad call by actually making a stop after it. OU? Yes, I believe they had ample opportunity to win that game after the bad onside kick call.
Another crucial officiating error that helped the momentum of OU during the fourth quarter? Why don't you go back and look at the tape of the play right before Adrian Peterson scored on 4th and 1? That should have been 4th and 2 at best, probably more appropriately 4th and 3. I have even heard someone say he stepped out of bounds five yards prior. So if it is 4th and three, do you really think Stoops doesn't kick a field goal?
What about the spot of the ball when they called back the Oklahoma TD after that circus play. They even called down to fix the spot which indeed ruined the spot as it was still spotted wrong.
I am so tired of listening to OU fans, coaches, University President's for christs sake whining over a football call.
It can be illustrated that officiating gave OU 8-11 pts. Now if you take those points off the board, does OU have the 13 pt lead ever? I dare say, no they don't. Is there even a need for an onside kick? Not likely.
If all the bad calls or no calls in that game are fixed, the better team wins the game. The better team won the game on Saturday. That is a fact.
Remember, prior to the onside kick, OU could have played some defense on the drive where Oregon basically was given a pathway to the end zone. Then after the "bad" call, they could have played defense and stopped Oregon. The fact is the only thing that could have stopped Oregon from scoring on that drive was Oregon, just like in the Holiday Bowl where Oregon did cost themselves the game.
Not to mention that Oklahoma still had a relatively short field goal to win the game which their kicker kicked too low into the line of scrimmage and it was blocked.
I have a feeling you are one of those people who whined at no end over the Seahawks loss in the Super Bowl too (I assume because you are a local sports broadcaster and feel that the Portland area is in love with the Seahawks). One of those calls people whined about was when a pass interference call that was pass interference was called in the end zone. They also failed to see the bad calls or no calls that went against Pittsburgh.
People need to watch a whole game and not concentrate on one bad call. That Oregon game was littered with them, and well, the crucial ones went OU's way the whole damn game until that onside kick.
So I suppose I am just saying OU folks should grab a tissue and maybe ask their coach if he can figure out a way to improve their defense. Because one loss isn't going to matter that much to a team that has 3 or 4 of them in the end.
Posted by: Michael Ross | September 19, 2006 2:16 PM
Oklahoma makes it sound like they have never had a bad call in their favor. How about having kgw check the archives and I bet they could run a series of plays on tonight's sports segment, where the calls have gone OK's way.
Posted by: Herb | September 19, 2006 2:48 PM
THOSE OFFICIALS SHOULD BE "FIRED" --NOT SUSPENDED. AND HOW DOES ANYONE KNOW THAT THOSE OFFICIALS DIDN'T HAVE BETS ON THE GAME??
Posted by: CONSTANCE | September 19, 2006 2:54 PM
Hey, at least Oregon is finally getting some national attention. It's too bad that an 11-1 regular season and no BCS bid didn't do it.
Posted by: donkey | September 19, 2006 7:00 PM
But while you are crying about the One play that was so "CLOSE" it could have gone either way why arent you Okie Fands complaining about the TWO BAD CALLS AGAINST the Ducks that led to Two Ok touchdowns when they shouldnt have?
Ohh yeah thats right your not interested in Those calls ...
Posted by: Jim | September 19, 2006 7:17 PM
I am so glad to see some support for Oregon in the MULTIPLE poor calls in this game. OU gets one bad one...how many did UO have? Let's see, 3rd and 10, play clock CLEARLY runs out and the center still has the ball. OU drives for a TD that was called back because he "stepped out"...but we'll give OU 6 yards. When Duck fans bring this up it's played down as unimportant and wouldn't affect the outcome. COME ON!! If the refs called the delay of game on UO they probably wouldn't have scored and if the onside kick went to their favor instead would they have been able to score? And let's not forget...OU had an opportunity to win with field goal w/2 seconds left and blew it. GROW UP OU!!! I can see why Texas hates you guys so much.
Posted by: justducky | September 19, 2006 8:09 PM
The bottom line is that the officiating didn't defeat Oklahoma, Oklahoma did. So,Oklahoma, get over it and play the rest of your season with some dignity.
Posted by: Tony LaMarche | September 19, 2006 10:13 PM
I was at the game, and I want to tell you I have never seen or been around ruder, more obnoxious fans than the Oklahoma fans.... I certainly understand now why they are called "oakies"... A little toungue in cheek here, but maybe its the higher power's way of humbling some really crude and rude folks...who got to commisserate about it for 2 thousand miles.... frankly... you get what you deserve in the most curious of ways...just saying.... go Ducks
Posted by: Don Cohen | September 19, 2006 11:03 PM
First off there were numerous bad calls throughout the UO-OU game. It comes as no surprise the officials did not get it right when it came time for the onside kick (and the phantom pass interference call).
That being said, OU had every chance to win this game and let it slip out of their fingers, bad calls or not. It's their own fault they let Dixon scramble for his TD, their own fault that they left Paysinger wide open in the endzone on the game-winning score, and their own fault that they kicked a field goal low enough to have it blocked.
Let us not forget the Super Bowl either, where despite numerous terrible calls against the Seahawks, they still put themselves in a position to take the lead in the third quarter. Hasselbeck threw an interception to Ike Taylor. I don't think that was the officials' fault.
Point being, if you play well enough you will overcome any mistake....officiating or your own. Sooners didn't do that on Saturday and they lost as a result.
Posted by: Chris | September 20, 2006 5:19 AM
I'm a U of O grad and have always rooted for them in all facets of every sport. I think it comes down to two things: 1. Respect for the other team and 2. Moving on with dignity. Yeah, the refs blew it. The irony of those two instant replay reviews at the end of the game will be remembered--mostly by OU fans. UO fans should celebrate the luck of the the duck AND respect the feelings of the OU fans, coaches, etc. They have a right to be chafed. If the cleat were on the other foot, UO fans would be up in arms. Both teams need to put this behind them.
True, it will be harder for OU, but it's ONE game and they dropped only two spots or something in the polls (I think). I know it's easier said than done, but no matter the outcome of any sporting event, people need to move on and live their lives--sports is really a frivolous part of our lives anyway (sorry Pivo).
With what's happening in Iraq, Africa, our economy, Katie & Tom's marriage, etc., don't we have other things to spout off about? As a side note, I have been soured on some sports due to the blatant incompetence of officials and how they sometimes seem to control the game more than the athletes--frustrating, but life goes on.
So, for the guy who called in the death threat to that one official, give me a break--switch to decaf and light a few candles. I think the NCAA and NFL should have bowl games at the end of the year where all of the officials play football and select players (mostly of the OU roster and coaching staff) officiate the game. Whatcha think? Just an idea. I know I'd be glued to the screen with a Domino's pepperoni with extra cheese in route. What's with the all-capitals comment? Sanders, find the "Caps Lock" key! Take care all.
Posted by: Chris | September 20, 2006 5:37 AM
Unbelievable. Typical Duck fans. All that is missing is their famous line. "A win is a win".
Posted by: Joe | September 20, 2006 7:33 AM
I am sure OKL has never gotten away with a bad call either. Quit crying! They sound like they are big babies!
Posted by: BenR | September 20, 2006 7:36 AM
what about the blocked kick? did your blind referees see your oregon player climbing his teamates back to block the kick? last time i checked thats a penalty also. give ou a flag on that penalty ou gets another shot and i assure you he dont get it blocked ou 36 uo 34.
Posted by: c boykin | October 3, 2006 2:14 PM